Wednesday, February 15, 2006

Belief in God not an article of Faith

So I am going to try to present something here which may not be terribly enlightening, or it may just be wrong; but today was the first time that the idea struck me.

After Philosophy 101 class today, the professor was talking with the TAs about the day's lecture, which had concerned itself with part of Hume's Dialogues on Natural Religion. In contrast to a design argument, as Hume presents it, for God's existence, St. Thomas' Five Ways happened to come up. Now these arguments are somehwat infamous or notorious or something in that, for one thing, their succinctness makes them appear as easy targets for any atheist lighting upon them. But many theists and also some Catholics find that, though they be five, not a single one of them works. I do not include myself in this group of people, and there are many who are not Catholics who do find at least one of them convincing.

Rarely enough, though, do we come across people who say that they began to believe in God on account of the cosmological argument, or an argument from design, or the ontological argument. Leaving that point aside for the moment, one does come across frequently the idea that the proposition, "There is a God", is one which can only be accepted on faith. In principle, they seem to think, faith is the only thing that could make us confident in assenting to the proposition "There is a God."

Of course, when we leave philosophy class at Cornell, and step into Catholic theology class, it would be heresy to say that reason alone (i.e., apart from any revelation) is incapable of knowing that God exists. This was dogmatically established by the First Council of the Vatican. What the Council did not say is that some one argument is sufficient in this regard, e.g. one of Thomas' Five Ways or some other relevant argument.

Here, therefore, is one important thing to note about the Catholic Faith, the recognition which it gives to the power of reason or the human mind to know certain profound truths about the world, apart from the help of divine revelation. I would imagine that most Catholics are not aware of this dogmatic truth and that they, like many of my students, would insist that we can only believe in God by faith.

But if we push the matter a little further, there is something which, it seems to me, we should note about faith. Let's say that to have or exercise faith in some instance means to assent to a proposition on the authority of another. Thus, there is both divine and human faith: the latter when we assent to a proposition on the authority of another man, and divine faith when we assent to a proposition on the authority of God. "I firmly believe . . . all these things because Thou hast revealed them, Who canst neither deceive nor be deceived."

So we accept whatever the Church teaches dogmatically on the basis of divine Faith. But given the definition of faith, it does not seem that we can accept God's existence on the basis of faith. For to accept something on the basis of faith presupposes that we know God exists; His action or revelation is the essential component in grounding the act of faith. This does not apply to knowing such things as that God is a Trinity, but simply to the claim that God Himself exists. (Presumably, there are a number of other qualities about God which come in that mix of things which we cannot accept on faith, but that's a trickier issue.)

If this is true, then it seems that those who go around claiming that they believe in God on the basis of faith are just dead wrong, at least if we are understanding faith in the Catholic, divine sense. In The Belief of Catholics, Knox lists a number of propositions which, he writes, "no Catholic, upon a moment's reflection, could accept on the authority of the Church and on that ground alone":

(i) The existence of God.

(ii) The fact that he has made a revelation to the world in Jesus Christ.

(iii) The Life (in its broad outlines), the Death, and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

(iv) The fact that our Lord founded a Church.

(v) The fact that he bequeathed to that Church his own teaching office, with the guarantee (naturally) that it should not err in teaching.

(vi) The consequent intellectual duty of believing what the Church believes.

He concludes this list by saying: "I do not say that these considerations are present to the mind of every Catholic, however ignorant, however stupid. I do say that these are the considerations which any Catholic teacher would put before him, if and in so far as he showed any curiosity about the matter. I would add that a glance at the Penny Catechism will disabuse any unbiased mind of the idea that the Church, even in dealing with simple folk, conceals from them the intellectual basis of their religion."

Okay, so that's a rough sketch of the situation. But how does it work out in more complicated situations? At the very beginning of the Summa, Thomas asks whether it can be demonstrated that God exists? The first objection runs thus: "It seems that the existence of God cannot be demonstrated. For it is an article of faith that God exists. But what is of faith cannot be demonstrated, because a demonstration produces scientific knowledge; whereas faith is of the unseen (Hebrews 11:1). Therefore it cannot be demonstrated that God exists." In response, Thomas argues that God's existence can be demonstrated, and cites St. Paul as follows: "The invisible things of Him are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made" (Romans 1:20). And in response to the first objection, Thomas writes:

"The existence of God and other like truths about God, which can be known by natural reason, are not articles of faith, but are preambles to the articles; for faith presupposes natural knowledge, even as grace presupposes nature, and perfection supposes something that can be perfected. Nevertheless, there is nothing to prevent a man, who cannot grasp a proof, accepting, as a matter of faith, something which in itself is capable of being scientifically known and demonstrated [Nihil tamen prohibet illud quod secundum se demonstrabile est et scibile, ab aliquo accipi ut credibile, qui demonstrationem non capit]."

Contrary to what I've proposed, Thomas says that one could accept God's existence on faith. I'm curious to know how this would happen. One possibility I see is that one could accept the existence of God on human faith, in the way that I accept Ambrosius' long calculations about strings and stars and such, and conclusions based on certain models as true, being unable intellectually (and unwilling) to do the calculations myself. Such might be an analogous relation between one who understands the cosmological proof, say, and one who cannot see even how the proof hangs together in a coherent fashion.

This solution seems somewhat dissatisfying, though, because it seems to put what is, of its very nature, a fallible instance of human faith before a long chain of propositions to be accepted on the basis of divine faith. I guess this is no more problematic, though, than any other time we have skeptical worries, perhaps about trusting others, but especially about our own ability to know basic, simple things about the world; we are fallible, after all, and we might be deceived about the existence of the chair we're sitting on, for example. So if we bracket skeptical concerns of that type, perhaps it is all right for a simpleton to accept God's existence on human faith, but I do not see how he could accept it on divine faith.

In any case, even if we bracket concerns about simpletons and how they might accept God's existence on faith, those of us who fancy ourselves good with proofs might still be rather anxious after reading Thomas' words quoted above; they make it plain, it seems to me, that Thomas thinks that, for most of us, our knowledge of God's existence is strictly natural. Again, I think that reflecting upon such a claim is great fun because it runs against the grain of our contemporary culture, both in its atheistic tendencies as well as among those who "believe in God", who are "believers", who claim that faith and not reason (or reason combined with sense data) ground their belief in God.

Yet for those of us who are Catholics, who are not simpletons, who can follow a proof, how do we look upon our own intellectual history with regard to this question? I said earlier that it is rare to hear that one became a Catholic after sitting down with the Five Ways or an argument from design or some such thing. Again, it is not uncommon to hear Catholics, even intellectually acute Catholics, such as my friend, Asinorum Doctor, say that they reject all five ways. Yet do these same people have an argument to fill the hole when the Five Ways are removed? More importantly, even of those who accept the Five Ways (or at least one of them), is it true that they believe in God because they followed one of the proofs through and saw that it all worked out? Certainly, in my own case, this is far from being true.

Still, I'm not at all uncomfortable in thinking that my knowledge that God exists is based on reason alone (roughly). I think that St. Paul gets close to what most of us probably feel, writing in the first chaper of his letter to the Romans: "Because that which is known of God is manifest in them. For God hath manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of Him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made; His eternal power also, and divinity: so that they are inexcusable."

St. Paul doesn't give a knock down argument here, nothing that looks, on the face of it, like the arguments routinely discussed in the philosophy of religion. St. Paul simply says "the invisible things of him . . . are clearly seen"; that's a bold claim, and there's something more to it than meets the eye, because the sight of which he speaks is not one of the eyes. It sounds to me something like what we often call intuition: we just see something to be true, for example, a simple modus ponens argument:

(i) If A then B
(ii) A
Therefore, B

This is a rational argument, nothing could be simpler (almost) or more obvious, and one reaches an end of rational proof very quickly if one were asked to work back from this argument, starting by proving its validity. Quickly, one reaches the law of non-contradiction A v ~A. One sees it or one doesn't, but there's not much more to be said about it.

Is rational belief in God like that for many of us? We just see it, in some sense, His invisible things, distinguishing between them and the rest of the created world. Or is it the case that most of us, though we haven't been as explicit about it, do have some kind of demonstrative proof of God rattling around in our heads? An argument based on morality, like C.S. Lewis, perhaps? In my own case, though, I couldn't say that there is a single argument which lead me to belief in God, though as I said before, I do think that my belief in God is not based on faith.



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16 Comments:

At 2/15/2006 09:43:00 PM, Blogger Raindear said...

You make an interesting point. However, with regard to the proofs of St. Thomas, I believe they are often misunderstood, and therefore wrongly discounted. A gifted friend of mine wrote an insightful Philosophy thesis explaining them and defending them against their modern critics. I will briefly sum up here:
First of all, any argument for the existence of God must be a Quia argument, proceeding from effect to cause. There are two types of Quia argument. One demonstrates that, given given a certain kind of effect, a certain kind of cause must exist; the other only that the cause most possess certain qualities in order to adequately account for its effect. A demonstration for the existence of God must of the first kind.
Secondly, God must be the proper cause of the effect in question. In other words, He must be the only kind of thing that can account for that effect. This is the key to my friend's argument. For he goes on to say, that only God can be the proper cause of being or existence, or esse in the Latin.
It boils down to this - the middle term in a demonstration for the existence of God MUST be understood as "being." St. Thomas, of all people, would have been aware of that. So we should approach his arguments with that in mind.
St. Thomas proves that essence, or what a thing is, is distinct from esse, or that it is. In fact, essence is, in a certain sense, in potency to esse the way that matter is in potency to form. Thus, the things we see around us must be caused, because it is not in the nature of anything to exist.
If I could quote my friend: "Thus the things around us must receive their existence from some being outside themselves. Nor does it suffice to say that they receive their being from other beings in the world around us. For these things themselves exercise acts of being that are limited by their reception into a definite form and particular quantity of matter; existence is above their nature, and they therefore cannot account for it, either in themselves, or even in their effects. The only kind of cause that can account for the existence of such things is a cause in which essence and existence are not distinct, but identical."

Sorry, I know this isn't really what you were interested in, but does that make any sense?

 
At 2/16/2006 12:49:00 AM, Blogger Iosephus said...

Okay, that sounds good and interesting to me, but as you say, it's tangential to the point I'm trying to raise here.

It could be the Five Ways or it could be some other argument for God's existence. What struck me for the first time today was the question of what role these arguments play in our belief in God. If it's the case that we can't have divine faith in God's existence, then it seems we should have no little motivation into investigating the normal or common or even possible routes by which average people or Catholics come to believe in God.

In conversation with Ambrosius tonight, he suggested that we might exercise this human faith with respect to our parents as they teach us about God. And then the story would be, for most of us, say, that we accept on human faith God's existence. One might wonder, though, how far we can take this back: does this chain of human faith go back to certain individuals who did accept God's existence, in the first place, based on some argument, whether a priori or a posteriori, or does the chain go back to some encounter with the divine, with the person of Christ, etc.

 
At 2/16/2006 09:55:00 AM, Blogger New Catholic said...

Iosephus, I recommend the chapter of "Introduction à la Philosophie Chrétienne", by Étienne Gilson titled "Philosopher dans la Foi". Many interesting points regarding your observations here.

 
At 2/16/2006 03:23:00 PM, Blogger johnboy316 said...

St. Thomas Aquinas' 5 proofs are for believers. They, so far as I know, are not intended to convince an athiest.

An unbeliever is primarily in a moral dilemma (note Commandment #1). This is why belief in God is not an intellectual decision. How many people do you know all of a sudden "solved" whether God is reality? However, for the believer, human reason naturally reveals that God is reality. St. Paul goes farther and states that the natural world and its evidence of God means unbelievers "have no excuse." He recognized the natural world is evidence of God.

 
At 2/16/2006 04:35:00 PM, Blogger Theocoid said...

They're inductive proofs, not deductive. That is, they don't necessarily follow from the premises but they point to a likely truth, hence, are reasonable.

The point is not that you can prove that God exists but that you can prove faith to be a reasonable assertion.

 
At 2/16/2006 04:46:00 PM, Blogger Iosephus said...

Thomas' five ways are not inductive arguments, if we mean by induction a sort of scientific induction, as in the case of a design argument.

The point of this post was that we don't have faith in God, because an act of divine faith presupposes that we know God and His authority.

Yes, the Faith is reasonable, but belief in God is not reasonable; rather, it is sure, certain, and in one sense, self-evident.

 
At 2/16/2006 06:07:00 PM, Blogger Theocoid said...

Peter Kreeft addresses this point in Handbook of Christian Apologetics far better than I could here.

 
At 2/16/2006 07:29:00 PM, Blogger johnboy316 said...

I think Theocoid was alluding to that famous phrase "faith seeks understanding". His point for "induction" was that it first presumes a fact (that is God is reality) and thus human reason as a consequence (not in a bad sense) is able to conclude with more certainty that indeed his belief is reasonable. This is in contrast to deduction, which refers to fact based upon the results of logical reasoning.

 
At 2/16/2006 08:10:00 PM, Blogger johnboy316 said...

I think St. Paul describes the moral element of belief in God as well as the reasonable-ness of belief in the following dramatic quote:

"For I am not ashamed of the gospel. It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: for Jew first, and then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness of God from faith to faith; as it is written, 'The one who is righteous by faith will live.' The wrath of God is indeed being revealed from heaven against every impiety and wickedness of those who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what can be known about God is evident to them, because God made it evident to them. Ever since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes of eternal power and divinity have been able to be understood and perceived in what he has made. As a result, they have no excuse; for although they knew God they did not accord him glory as God or give him thanks. Instead, they became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless minds were darkened. While claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for the likeness of an image of mortal man or of birds or of four-legged animals or of snakes. Therefore, God handed them over to impurity through the lusts of their hearts for the mutual degradation of their bodies. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie and revered and worshiped the creature rather than the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Therefore, God handed them over to degrading passions. Their females exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the males likewise gave up natural relations with females and burned with lust for one another. Males did shameful things with males and thus received in their own persons the due penalty for their perversity. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God handed them over to their undiscerning mind to do what is improper. They are filled with every form of wickedness, evil, greed, and malice; full of envy, murder, rivalry, treachery, and spite. They are gossips and scandalmongers and they hate God. They are insolent, haughty, boastful, ingenious in their wickedness, and rebellious toward their parents. They are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know the just decree of God that all who practice such things deserve death, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them" (Romans 1:16-32).

 
At 2/16/2006 09:38:00 PM, Blogger Theocoid said...

Johnboy 316 quotes St. Anselm, and that is definitely part of the point I was making. However, I meant to go beyond that. Not all that is reasonable is logically deducible. When I say it's reasonable to believe in God, that's what I mean. It isn't contradictory. It doesn't defy reason. I

Having faith in a personal God is reasonable, first and foremost, because believing in God is reasonable.

 
At 2/16/2006 10:39:00 PM, Blogger Tobias Petrus said...

Iosephus asks if some people believe in God on the basis of "human faith," i.e. they trust that others know correctly about God although they don't "get" what proof there is for His existence. May I present a possible scenario for such an occurrence? What if someone has a basic "sense" that the universe is rational and has a good handle on what is moral and immoral in human behavior. He pays attention and realizes that of all systematic forms of thought and practice, Roman Catholicism alone conveys unadulterated, unambiguous truth about morality and brings it through to fruition in the lives of the saints. He then says, "Well, since truth is a seemless garment, these fish-eating breast-beaters must be right about God, too." If I am not mistaken, this fellow has not reasoned to the existence of God. If he had found a noble, invincibly ignorant infidel (the imaginary boogey-man who inhabits the contra-factual conditions of theologians) he would never have inferred the existence of God from moral behavior. His conclusion about the connection between morality and belief in God, while in reality a necessary link, is "contingent" from his perspective. He exercises "human faith" to the extent that he concludes that (consistently) moral people are right in their religious positions. Then he exercises supernatural belief when he believes in God Himself. He escapes naturalistic reasoning to God's existence. Or am I misunderstanding something?

 
At 2/17/2006 12:24:00 AM, Blogger Iosephus said...

The reasonableness of the Catholic Faith is one thing; the existence of God is another thing.

All I'm talking about here is the bare bones (more or less) proposition:

"God exists."

It is a dogma of the Faith that reason can know this proposition to be true without the aid of revelation. Know it, absolutely know it, not have it as a hunch, a good maybe, a very likely, or a probably - but flat out know it.

The Church doesn't enter the picture at all here, in terms of helping us assent to the proposition, except perhaps, as certain of her adherents, like Thomas, put forward arguments like the Five Ways. But we needn't rely on those particular ways or any other particular argument - my question, though, concerns whether we might need, though, at least one.

We do not or cannot (more interestingly) have supernatural or divine faith in God's existence. This is a preamble to the articles of the faith, as Thomas says, and not itself an article. An article would be such a thing as that God is a Trinity. No mere philosopher can come to the conclusion that God is a Trinity, though he could perhaps works his way to the conclusion that such an idea was "reasonable." But God's self revelation alone gives us the necessary grounds to assent to such propositions as that God is a Trinity.

To exercise supernatural or divine faith, we assent to a proposition on God's authority, but we can't do this in the case of believing in God for the same reason that I couldn't take it on the authority of Iacobus that Connecticut exists (I've never been there myself) unless I'm pretty well convinced that Iacobus exists!

 
At 2/17/2006 02:45:00 AM, Blogger Patrick said...

One possibility I see is that one could accept the existence of God on human faith...

I think that you do this possibility too little justice- and I believe that the faith of most people in fact begins as such.

The cradle Catholic believes as a child out of trust in his parents' faith. People are converted at the sight of a living saint or martyr. For one woman I know, a biography of St. Teresa of Avila was the catalyst in coming to the Church.

And later on, each meets God in the Church, in the Eucharist, in theology, and their faith can be built on those rather than just on the witness of the holy men and women with which it began. So from a human faith in God, we can see for ourselves and thus pass to a divine faith in God. We believe in God because we have come to know Him.

It's no different from the Samaritan woman who goes and tells her town that this may be the Christ: they later say to her, "It is no longer because of what you said that we believe, for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is truly the Savior of the world."

 
At 2/17/2006 08:39:00 AM, Blogger Tobias Petrus said...

Iosephus, I don't think you understood what I was aiming at. I know that the Church teaches that we can know the existence of God from reason alone. I know that the Church is not necessary for this knowledge. I was trying to present a scenario for what you asked, i.e. a person believing in God without a rational account. But I'm in a rush and will have to re-read your post, and the other ones, before commenting further.

 
At 2/17/2006 10:16:00 AM, Blogger johnboy316 said...

I think the thing here is that the theological virtue of faith which is the submission of the intellect to a belief in God is also further applied to adherence to what he has revealed (ie, the truths of religion). Of course belief in God per se is a grace. God grants the individual enough "insight" in order to believe. Additionally, the soul has imprinted on it the moral law to some extent so even innately man has this "ability" to accept this truth.

And think of when you were first told that there is a God. Probably no one ever told you that. At least I can't remember. That's because there is a God and we didn't need to be informed of His existence. Think also of the pagan religions who, though clouded with the lack of Christianity, they (well, some of them anyway like the Native American religions, perhaps) acknowledge a source of the natural world (aka, the sun god, etc.).

 
At 2/17/2006 12:59:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnboy,

Stop! My head is hurting!

Out of charity consider limiting your posts to once per day...

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