Please Call Me a Pascendist
My commentary on Mr. Stephen M. Heiner's recent interview with Bishop Richard N. Williamson, SSPX. The piece below first appeared on Mr. Heiner's blog, True Restoration.
Yes, indeed, is the answer given by Bishop Richard N. Williamson to Mr. Stephen Heiner's question. I think that these verses provide a fun (and perhaps ironic) starting point from which to examine some interesting elements in Mr. Heiner's interview with Bishop Williamson. For this was an aspect of the interview which particularly struck me: Bishop Williamson's steadfast unwillingness to compromise.Bhp Williamson: "With me, it's all or nothing,
is it all or nothing with you?
It cain't be in between,
It cain't be now and then,
No half and half romance will do."
Mr Heiner: So, my lord, it all comes down to the flighty girl in "Oklahoma!"?
The Society of St. Pius X has been, since the first rumblings of conflict, distinguished by its unwillingness to compromise, about the Mass, about the doctrine of the Church, about the episcopal consecrations. This lack of compromise has both fired its supporters and inflamed the ire of those who either wish it destroyed or wish that it had been long ago regularized.
But of course, one cannot compromise when it comes to the doctrines of the Church and the truths of the Faith; all whom we need be concerned to speak of here should be able to agree upon this point. Yet some bishops of the Society have, in recent interviews, indicated their belief that someone as erudite as well as gifted with the graces of office as Pope Benedict XVI has missed this point. For instance, Bishop Williamson says in the present interview: "Benedict XVI believes that Catholic 'truth' can evolve."
The evidence for this statement is that Benedict refers to "very serious statements of Catholic truth that cannot change, like the Syllabus or Pascendi" as merely "substantial anchorages" in Church doctrine. Bishop Williamson also refers to Cardinal Ratzinger's seemingly uncomprehending stare when a bishop of the Society spoke of restoring the Social Reign of Christ the King.
Now my response to Bishop Williamson's criticisms of Pope Benedict (and, implicitly, many of the leading intellectual and theological lights of the Church today) is twofold. First of all, it is the Pope, the Holy Father, who has the authority to interpret, authoritatively, the Holy Scriptures and the documents of the Church. At the same time, if our religion is to be at all reasonable - and it surely is - the Pope cannot call what is black white. As far as I understand his position, Bishop Williamson is saying that Pope Benedict is calling something which is obviously black, white; e.g., Leo XIII's teaching, throughout many brilliant encyclicals, that the best condition of the State is one in which the Church is not treated as one religion among many, but as the true Faith.
As a layman and as one void of theological knowledge but of moderate intelligence, I can read the encyclicals of Leo XIII and understand their message. But I can little judge whether these are teachings for all time, or merely the prudential judgments of the Supreme Pontiff, to be followed until one of greater wisdom succeeds to the throne or the conditions of the time change so as to require new judgments. Personally, I don't see, for example, how Leo XIII's words can be ignored as though they were locked in the past, in a different world. As with many of the great teaching encyclicals from the 19th and early 20th centuries, they seem only to have become more appropriate with the passage of time.
And here I do enter an area wherein I have a little expertise, philosophy. It seems that in these matters we ought to find some happy medium between skepticism and dogmatic insistence upon our own opinion. In the latter extreme is the danger of protestantism, the departure from the Faith which occurs when we insist upon our private judgment. At the other extreme, however, we would place so little confidence in our ability to understand the import of the words on the page in front of us that we believe whatever "Rome" tells us, even if it is Paul VI proclaiming the glories of the New Mass, even if it is John Paul II lauding, for the one hundredth time, this glorious springtime of the Church. Where do we draw the line between mistrust of our own judgment and insistence upon the powers of the rational faculty which God has planted in each one of us?
I don't know the answer to these questions, but I think that herein lies the key to understanding the intransigence of Bishop Williamson. Everyone of us, inasmuch as we are Catholics, ought to be wildly cheering Bishop Williamson and the SSPX - if they are standing firm in matters where the case, to any rational human being, ought to be obvious. But if Benedict is within his right to reverse the judgment of Leo XIII, and Benedict, if not those before him, certainly has reversed this judgment, for he advocates a secular state with a public square open to religion, then we ought to regard the Society with aversion for insisting upon their private judgment.
"With me it's all or nothing
is it all or nothing with you?"
It must be all with each one of us Catholics, but the "all" being the whole of the Faith, and not the accretions which have come in or remained, as it were, only by my own say-so. This much is obvious, I think, and to be quite fair, it is obvious to both His Lordship and to our Most Holy Lord. But - and this is my second response to Williamson's criticisms of Benedict - I simply do not believe that Joseph Ratzinger, one of the intellectual lights of today's world, is deaf to this point. I don't hesitate to believe that Ratzinger stared dumbly when the Social Reign of Christ the King was mentioned, but this dumb stare could well be for the reason I've explained above, namely that Ratzinger considered such a position prudential - then, of precisely the kind that can truly "evolve" (to use that hated word).
In the Holy Father's recent address at the University of Regensburg, the one which lashed the Mohammedan horde into a frenzy, the primary point was the power of human reason and the nature of God. God is the logos, rational, reasonable, and very much accessible to our intellect, though we must also remember His transcendence above our finite nature. Truth, and especially theological truth, is the great object of the human mind, in God above all else, but in the mundane sciences besides. This truth does not change! Indeed, it is not the nature of truth to change; it is eternal, and, as Bishop Williamson says in this interview, "all truth belongs to Catholics, meaning that Catholics can profit by truth wherever they find it."
And so this was my reaction to Williamson's words about Benedict and the purported evolution of Catholic truth: I cannot believe it of Benedict. Pope Benedict may be wrong in his handling of many issues, he may be acting too slowly and may be too insistent upon consensus and the support of his cardinals, but he is not an idiot. Granted, he was educated and taught in a modern university, but we cannot forget that it was he who for years lamented Europe's ills, and diagnosed the disease of its mind: John Paul may have pointed to a failure of hope, but Ratzinger is pointing to a failure of intellectual courage, of confidence in reason. He is the last person who would indulge in such sloppy nonsense as the evolution of truth, Catholic or otherwise.
I am not judging between Benedict and Williamson; I am only insisting that if Benedict has erred, it is because he has mistaken a definitive, timeless judgment or judgments for prudential, circumstance-dependent judgments. Let us locate the controversy here, and let us think seriously about the confidence we are placing in private judgment.
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17 Comments:
From what I've seen, admittedly not that much, of Bp. Williamson, he's not fit to hold Benedict's intellectual jock strap, as it were. I think you've identified the central issue--whether the documents/teaching at issue are prudential.
This points to a problem I've often observed of partially educated Traditionalists. They have become (unlike St. Thomas himself) dogmatic "Thomists" so much so that whenever they see anything that looks the least bit different from what they're used to, they lash out, insisting that it's utterly misguided if not downright heretical. This is a real shame, and the farthest thing in the world from what a genuine philosopher like St. Thomas would have wanted.
As I read this I reminded again how the majority of us traditionally-minded Catholics reap the benefits of the SSPXs existence without suffering any of the potential costs: schism, excommunication, final damnation..
I mean whether or not the Social Reign of Christ as articulated by Leo XIII is an article faith or not, does affect the joe-six-pack Catholic. I can hold to the traditional position, and it doesn't cost me anything.
For SSPX bishops, however, they are kept on the periphery of the Church, refused the opportunity of rapprochement, specifically on these types of issues.
And let's be specific, they not asking for the Church to make some declaration -- they are only asking for the ability to make such declarations, to state such opinions, within the Church. This is what is denied them. Bernard Fellay has been clear on this point.
Taking some ultra-montantist and uncharitable approach, as Dr. Asinorum or like Johnboy loves to do, is just silly. Especially for Dr. A - who seems to also reap the benefits of the SSPX consecrations.
It said that Rome is incapable of bringing about a reunion with the SSPX because of the scores of western sees that would breakaway over such a “compromise.” On the other hand, when you read the vitriolic words from some so-called traditionalists and just about all “conservatives” (for instance EWTN and Catholic Answers), the real opposition seems to be from these quarters – the ultra-montanists, not the liberals.
Perhaps it’s because the liberals are people are used to public disagreements with the Holy Father; so another addition to the cacophony of voices within the Church hierarchy doesn’t bother them.
The ultra-montanist, however, is so obsessed with his pope-worship that he fails to see anything of value, anything truly Catholic, with the SSPX.
JSP,
You've done it again. It's remarkable how brilliantly you concentrate nonsense. It really is a kind of gift—almost idiot-savant, I'd grant, but mostly idiot.
No. No. No. I've been through this before, but I'll say it again: you can't win martyrdom, or pseudo-martyrdom, through risking excommunication. It doesn't work that way.
Are there "things of value" in the SSPX? Of course. There are also "things of value" in the false doctrines every schismatic and heretic that's ever lived. Does the SSPX possess or exemplify "anything truly Catholic"? Obviously, yes. If they were completely out in left field, they wouldn't be so dangerous. As it is, they mix many good and beautiful things with many years of continued disobedience to the Holy See. If we're going to condemn disobedience so harshly when we find it among the Jesuits or in the diocese of Los Angeles or in the Cornell Catholic Chaplaincy, we can't go all mushy with the SSPX just because they use Gregorian Chant in their illicit Masses.
Particularly dangerous and irksome is the oft-repeated claim that we should be grateful to the SSPX because without the disobedience of Archbishop Lefebvre the various concessions that have been granted to traditionalists in recent years would never have come. Admittedly, to our ordinary understandings, the defiance of the Lefebvreites has played a causal role in the increased accommodation for those devoted to the Latin Mass. But, first of all, it is cowardly and faithless to suggest that the Mass of All Time could not have been preserved in any other way. As I asked once before: are we petty politicians, or children of a Living God? Our Master will provide us with all things needful; he does not ask us to fall afoul of his Holy Church and risk our own damnation in order to seize them by force.
Furthermore, as I pointed out once before, many or even most positive gains in the history of the Church have been provoked through the opposition of the obstinate. The clarification of dogma and the institution of reforms are very often inspired by the need to respond to the presses of heretics or schismatics. Martin Luther, for example, was enormously important in the causal chain that eventually lead to your precious Council of Trent. Do you express deep gratitude for him in your nightly prayers, Six Pack?
As a lover of the Latin Mass, I cannot but have some sympathy for the SSPX and their concerns. But excommunication and schism are serious business, and the SSXP have skirted that line and perhaps crossed it at points. If we care about the welfare of souls -- our own, or those of others -- we will do well to keep well back from that brink.
"No. No. No. I've been through this before, but I'll say it again: you can't win martyrdom, or pseudo-martyrdom, through risking excommunication. It doesn't work that way."
Tell this to the Catholics in California threatened with schism and excommunication for kneeling during the Agnus Dei or while receiving Holy Communion.
You drive 2 hours to go to Mass on Sunday, passing by probably hundreds of closer Catholic parishes.
We are in unprecedented times.
I'd be a little slower to judge.
Come now, JSP, that broadside was a little bit silly, don't you think? I certainly don't want to drag myself into this distasteful topic again, but we sound like a bunch of faithless whiners if we go around whimpering that we drive too far on Sundays, have many heretical and evil Bishops, and thus shouldn't be judged for questionable fealty to the Holy See.
We can't go thrashing about levelling criticism at the Holy Father, and then play with kid gloves when it comes to obedience and schism.
Iosephus and I don't see completely eye to eye on this, but I thought his piece was marvelous. Without the distraction of practicalities, it points out exactly why we and the sedevacantist crowd tend to get a little red-faced at people like Williamson.
It wasn't meant as a broadside, just a statement of fact: we live in unprecedented times. The driving of long distances to attend the Tradition Mass isn't about some fanciful liturgical preference. It's about saving our immortal souls and raising our families in the Faith.
Isn't it?
I only suggested it to demonstrate that we live in extraordinary times.
I've never attended an SSPX mass.
But I can certainly see that my beloved FSSP community would not be in existence without the SSPX.
Also, like I said in the first response, the SSPX isn't asking Rome to recant 50 years of novelty. They are absolutely clear on this. They are only asking for the right to defend tradition within the Church. That's it. This is the central point of "disobedience" that stands in the way of a formal rapprochement.
I once over heard a very prominent indult priest saying that he was working on an article about something, but wasn't sure his superiors would allow it to be published. There is truth to the criticism of the Indult communities that they are controlled by modernists in Rome and in their respective dioceses. In my opinion, they [the indult communities] are not compromised in any way that affects my salvation or that of my families. (Like I said the doctrine of the Social Reign of Christ the King doesn't affect me hardly at all.) So I will continue to attend FSSP masses whenever I can.
However, neither I nor you are bishops. Some of these issues may be not only worth fighting for, to men like the late-Archbishop Lefebrve, but their salvations may depend upon taking this course.
I have the luxury of sitting back in my safe, cozy FSSP community (at least I did until recently), who can judge the folks who lived before Ecclesia Dei, or who live now in dioceses where Catholic Tradition is treated like so much heresy.
This is straightforwardly consequentialist reasoning. From what we can see, it seems as if we wouldn't have the FSSP without the SSPX and that therefore justifies the SSPX. Balderdash! Even if it were true (and the truth of counter-factuals is always problematic) that we wouldn't have the FSSP in its present form without the intransigence of the SSPX, we simply cannot know what the situation vis-a-vis the old Mass would have been. But it is both a failure of hope and faith to think that the "Mass of All Time" would have died without the schismatic actions of Abp Lefebvre and his followers. This isn't about a rush to private "judgment" of the SSPX (though the irony of JSP complaining about a rush to judgment is rather rich); this about following the successor of Peter in faith and hope that the Holy Ghost remains always with the Church.
Precisely, and I notice that my point about how reform and dogma are almost always inspired by disobedience and heresy, was completely ignored. You say these times are special, but if you think these are the first dark days the Church has ever gone through, think again. So, just for the record, using precisely your own consequentialist reasoning, there are some names you'd better add to your list of brave and admirable people:
-- Martin Luther, without whom we would have had no Council of Trent,
-- Arius and Nestorius, without whom the Christological dogma would never have been defined,
-- Judas Iscariot, without whom Our Lord would never have died for us.
God can make all injuries against His Church work for good, but even so, as it says in the Gospels, "woe to him by whom offences come."
To me it seems with the SSPXer's that they talk a great game but are preciously short on action. They yell and scream (like Drolesky) about the Social Reign of Christ the King..but do precious little about it. I've got Novus Ordo friends who go out every weekend knocking on doors trying to convert souls to the Catholic faith that are doing more than any SSPXer. And they could care less about the Traditional Latin Mass. I've got other friends involved in prison ministry teaching prisoners the Catholic faith. They are doing a hell of alot more than the SSPX to bring about the Social Reign of Christ the King. So you started your own independent church with a little congregation and think of yourselves as "True Catholics"...am I supposed to be impressed?
...a series of examples of peace and love from the New Springtime corner of the Church.
legion of mary, ironically, your remarks sound exactly like those of a protestant acquaintance of mine who was attempting to persuade me how much more Christian his evangelical church is than the Catholic Church.
"They are doing a hell of alot more than the SSPX to bring about the Social Reign of Christ the King. So you started your own independent church with a little congregation and think of yourselves as "True Catholics"...am I supposed to be impressed?"
The level of charity in your comments is breathtaking.
RP,
When I see the fruits of the SSPX...I will believe. If the fruits of the Traditional Latin Mass are Joe Six Pack, then we really don't need it after all.
You should be impressed with your friend who is out there pounding the pavement. And you should ask yourself why aren't more Catholics out there doing the same?
Legion of Mary,
One ought to be careful judging a thing by its fruits, as it is often difficult to discern what are fruits and what are not.
I think you missed RP's main point. The Evangelicals' zeal is admirable, but you would not let it shake your faith in the Church. Sometimes the best fruits are hidden. Our Lady is mentioned very little in the Gospels, yet she is the Queen of Heaven. In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis said that Christianity does not necessarily make people good, but it does make them better than they would be otherwise. Only God can measure the work of grace upon the hearts of men.
By no means take this as a recommendation of the SSPX. I merely wish to point out the danger of superficial judgments in these matters.
Very well said, Raindear.
legion of Mary,
"You should be impressed with your friend who is out there pounding the pavement."
I am.
"And you should ask yourself why aren't more Catholics out there doing the same?"
I do.
Clara said, "...the various concessions that have been granted to traditionalists in recent years would never have come."
Unless you are referring to the unnecessary and redundant indult since it was already given in perpetuity by Pope St. Pius V in Quo Primum, what are these concessions you are referring to please?
God Bless
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